Scary that a small town mayor (a town smaller than Brooklyn) from Alaska could be prez. And she's only been gov for about a year and a half. The reason she beat out the good old boy for that slot is because she IS a good old boy. God save us all.
They think she'll draw the votes of the disaffected Hillary fans. Think again, Reps. Dem and Independent women will see it for the ruse that it is. Gimme a break. Joe Biden will eat her alive in the debates.
I'm supporting Obama, but I don't understand how people are saying that she's not ready to be president because of her lack of experience. True, she's inexperienced, but she's a VP pick. Obama is a senator...and he hasn't been one for long. How is he any more experienced to be President than Palin?
(and I'm speaking on terms that have nothing to do with their political views, because I think Palin's views are laughable)
I mean, I kind of thought the lack of experience is why people liked Obama.
hutch: I'm supporting Obama, but I don't understand how people are saying that she's not ready to be president because of her lack of experience. True, she's inexperienced, but she's a VP pick. Obama is a senator...and he hasn't been one for long. How is he any more experienced to be President than Palin?
I'm not really the sort that counts experience as the key factor in this particular equation, but to my eye, there are clear and substantive differences between Palin and Obama's relative experience levels.
Barack Obama holds a doctorate in law and taught constitutional law for twelve years. He followed that with seven years as a state senator, and another three years in the US Senate (minus time on the campaign trail, of course).
Sarah Palin holds a Bachelor's in journalism. Her political career includes four years in city council and two terms as Mayor of Wasilla--a city of fewer than 8,000 people--followed by roughly one year and eight months as Governor of Alaska. The state has a population a little smaller than San Francisco.
I don't know how a person could look at their respective records and think they're remotely equivalent, but maybe that's just me. *shrug*
Personally, I think we have one two many lawyers in government. So bringing up Obama's law degree doesn't do much for me.
Since they say people vote for the President and not the VP, I'm guessing neither choice will matter that much in the end. Not sure why everyone's so anti-Palin. Looking at her sort of 'maverick' type record and the 'outside of Washington' thing going for her, it actually makes a lot of sense for McCain to pick her.
Bill Clinton was governor with no internat'l experience. Obama has little to no governmental experience. Sometimes I really do think these can be *good* things in candidates.
I'm more interested in who each candidate surrounds himself with...no president makes his decisions without supporting players.
To spectre-7: If we were talking about Obama for the Supreme Court or something, I'd say that his education was relevant, but we're talking about the presidency. Plus schooling doesn't mean jack. I have a degree in medieval literature, yet I manage the IT dept of a large company.
Now please don't get me wrong, I'm sort of on board with the idea of getting someone into office who isn't experienced because we need someone who can look at our problems from a different perspective, but let's get real: the presidency is an administrator, not a lawmaker. Yes, Palin has been mayor and governor of small populations, but her experience as mayor and governor translates directly into the same kind of work as the president does, just on a much larger scale. A senatorial position simply does not translate into the same work.
If people want to bash Palin's lack of experience, that's fine, but Obama is just as lacking when it comes to experience. Yes, we like him more, and yes I'm mostly in line with his politics, but he's green.
Since they say people vote for the President and not the VP, I'm guessing neither choice will matter that much in the end.
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I'm more interested in who each candidate surrounds himself with...no president makes his decisions without supporting players.
The second statement answers the first. People will vote for the top of the ticket they like, but the VP pick is one of the first indications we get of the prez-nominee's judgment in the people he'll appoint to top positions.
I can't help but wonder what a McCain cabinet will look like, not to mention his court nominees, if this is an indication of his judgment.
Aaaack! May I just comment from inside Alaska? Our newbie governor is being touted as someone who "stood up to big oil," yet her husband WORKS for big oil. She "balanced the state budget." Hello? Anybody? Alaska has, um, a surplus. She and her husband Todd gave their most recent child the middle name Van, so he could be Trig "Van Palin." Get it? Rhymes with the rock group? And yes, they admitted they did that on purpose. They thought it was hysterical. Whoever believes that tripe about her being qualified, please feel free to vote for her, so all 670,000 of us Alaskans can at least be rid of her.
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Most definitely. Let the games begin!
Let's see:
John McCain had advanced melanoma (something they keep out of the press, but it was at a stage that is very likely to recur) and he's 72.
So, if the phone rings in the middle of the night, do we all just grab our shotguns and get ready to hunt caribou?
I'm completely freaked out by this choice.
Completely.
Scary that a small town mayor (a town smaller than Brooklyn) from Alaska could be prez. And she's only been gov for about a year and a half. The reason she beat out the good old boy for that slot is because she IS a good old boy.
God save us all.
They think she'll draw the votes of the disaffected Hillary fans. Think again, Reps. Dem and Independent women will see it for the ruse that it is. Gimme a break. Joe Biden will eat her alive in the debates.
Palin thinks global warming isn't man made, she's pro-life, believes in creationism, and has ties to the oil industry (her husband worked for BP).
If ANY of Clinton's supporters vote for McCain based on the fact that Palin's a woman and McCain's not Obama, then shame on them.
I personally agree with Marva, that they'll see this ticket for what it actually is. A joke.
Simply owning a vagina does not make one a viable vice presidential candidate.
I'm supporting Obama, but I don't understand how people are saying that she's not ready to be president because of her lack of experience. True, she's inexperienced, but she's a VP pick. Obama is a senator...and he hasn't been one for long. How is he any more experienced to be President than Palin?
(and I'm speaking on terms that have nothing to do with their political views, because I think Palin's views are laughable)
I mean, I kind of thought the lack of experience is why people liked Obama.
hutch: I'm supporting Obama, but I don't understand how people are saying that she's not ready to be president because of her lack of experience. True, she's inexperienced, but she's a VP pick. Obama is a senator...and he hasn't been one for long. How is he any more experienced to be President than Palin?
I'm not really the sort that counts experience as the key factor in this particular equation, but to my eye, there are clear and substantive differences between Palin and Obama's relative experience levels.
Barack Obama holds a doctorate in law and taught constitutional law for twelve years. He followed that with seven years as a state senator, and another three years in the US Senate (minus time on the campaign trail, of course).
Sarah Palin holds a Bachelor's in journalism. Her political career includes four years in city council and two terms as Mayor of Wasilla--a city of fewer than 8,000 people--followed by roughly one year and eight months as Governor of Alaska. The state has a population a little smaller than San Francisco.
I don't know how a person could look at their respective records and think they're remotely equivalent, but maybe that's just me. *shrug*
To spectre-7:
Amen.
Personally, I think we have one two many lawyers in government. So bringing up Obama's law degree doesn't do much for me.
Since they say people vote for the President and not the VP, I'm guessing neither choice will matter that much in the end. Not sure why everyone's so anti-Palin. Looking at her sort of 'maverick' type record and the 'outside of Washington' thing going for her, it actually makes a lot of sense for McCain to pick her.
Bill Clinton was governor with no internat'l experience. Obama has little to no governmental experience. Sometimes I really do think these can be *good* things in candidates.
I'm more interested in who each candidate surrounds himself with...no president makes his decisions without supporting players.
To spectre-7: If we were talking about Obama for the Supreme Court or something, I'd say that his education was relevant, but we're talking about the presidency. Plus schooling doesn't mean jack. I have a degree in medieval literature, yet I manage the IT dept of a large company.
Now please don't get me wrong, I'm sort of on board with the idea of getting someone into office who isn't experienced because we need someone who can look at our problems from a different perspective, but let's get real: the presidency is an administrator, not a lawmaker. Yes, Palin has been mayor and governor of small populations, but her experience as mayor and governor translates directly into the same kind of work as the president does, just on a much larger scale. A senatorial position simply does not translate into the same work.
If people want to bash Palin's lack of experience, that's fine, but Obama is just as lacking when it comes to experience. Yes, we like him more, and yes I'm mostly in line with his politics, but he's green.
Since they say people vote for the President and not the VP, I'm guessing neither choice will matter that much in the end.
...
I'm more interested in who each candidate surrounds himself with...no president makes his decisions without supporting players.
The second statement answers the first. People will vote for the top of the ticket they like, but the VP pick is one of the first indications we get of the prez-nominee's judgment in the people he'll appoint to top positions.
I can't help but wonder what a McCain cabinet will look like, not to mention his court nominees, if this is an indication of his judgment.
They say Palin has international experience because Alaska borders two foreign countries... Canada and Russia..(can't help giggling at his one)
Simply owning a vagina does not make one a viable vice presidential candidate.
That's right. It needs to be a liberal vagina.
Aaaack! May I just comment from inside Alaska? Our newbie governor is being touted as someone who "stood up to big oil," yet her husband WORKS for big oil. She "balanced the state budget." Hello? Anybody? Alaska has, um, a surplus. She and her husband Todd gave their most recent child the middle name Van, so he could be Trig "Van Palin." Get it? Rhymes with the rock group? And yes, they admitted they did that on purpose. They thought it was hysterical. Whoever believes that tripe about her being qualified, please feel free to vote for her, so all 670,000 of us Alaskans can at least be rid of her.
I was kind of wondering about Palin (who's this lady? Why does everyone hate her?) so I did some research.
And was so horrified that I needed to vent in a slightly silly way. And yes, the pictures are silly and Palin-as-Azula is silly... but all the links I list?
Not silly at all.
I am now afeared of McCain's judgement. Unless he's a sleeper cell democrat.
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